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McDowell - Asylum Seekers are telling "cock and bull stories" and "complete rubbish" to get into Ireland

McDowell - Asylum Seekers are telling "cock and bull stories" and "complete rubbish" to get into Ireland
Speaking at an oireachtas debate on Wednesday 18 May 2005 (Select committee on Justice and Equality) the then  Justice Minister Michael McDowell said the committee .. "have no idea whatsoever of the complete rubbish in the stories that people come up with in order to get into Ireland" .."If Irish people had even the remotest idea of the nonsense that lies behind a huge amount of these bogus claims, it would try their patience to the limit" .. "There is a large amount of political correctness in Ireland, much of which is manifestly bogus. I never see anybody involved in the NGO sector ever admitting that there is a major problem with the fraudulent and far-fetched nonsense masquerading as asylum seeking here. It is about time we said it"

This following is a direct transcript from that discussion

I read files every day and Deputies should see the stories with which I have to deal. I cannot reveal the claims that are made by asylum seekers in individual cases, even though people have called for the publication of decisions in such cases. Most of these asylum seekers provide stories as to why they came here, how they thought they were in Canada when they arrived, how anonymous people told them that Ireland was the best place to go, and how Irish priests and other religious pastors got them here. In addition, they tell cock and bull stories about having to come to Ireland to escape ritual sacrifice in the family because they are the third, fourth or seventh son selected for such a sacrifice.

If the Irish people had even the remotest idea of the nonsense that lies behind a huge amount of these bogus claims, it would try their patience to the limit.

I would much prefer to have a system whereby we could interview people at the airport, find out their cock and bull story and say "You're going home on the next flight". Unfortunately, however the UN convention requires me to go through due process in respect of all these claims.

If members of the committee could see what I see, and realised the huge bills that accumulate as a result, they would realise how serious the matter is.

long after they have gone through due process and have been told to leave Ireland, the knee-jerk reaction of many people is to phone a lawyer who seeks a judicial review to get them taken off the flight. That is the kind of thing that is going on. Currently, I have the added difficulty that one particular judgment in the High Court stated that once they apply to the High Court, I must stop the deportation process. That is the case before they have even appeared before a judge — once they have served papers on me, it is my duty to stop them being put on a flight

Members of the committee have no idea whatsoever of the complete rubbish in the stories that people come up with in order to get into Ireland. For example, they may say that their first cousin was involved in acoup d’état 20 years ago, or that since they are the third or fourth son they have been selected by some cult for ritual sacrifice. They may also claim that they have been asked to carry out a ritual sacrifice themselves but cannot do so and therefore must travel from Nigeria to Ireland. What is more, they claim they do not know how they got to Ireland because there are no direct flights, and they cannot explain why they did not seek asylum in another state.

There is a large amount of political correctness in Ireland, much of which is manifestly bogus. I never see anybody involved in the NGO sector ever admitting that there is a major problem with the fraudulent and far-fetched nonsense masquerading as asylum seeking here. It is about time we said it. 

Former Justice Minister Michael McDowell  , Oireachtas debate 18 May 2005 


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mcdowell says the UN is stopping Ireland from turning back bogus asylum seekers at the Airport . Who gave the UN so much power over Ireland . so anyone who mentions the word 'asylum' at the airport is automatically entitled to full board accommodation even if they came from a safe country . this is ridiculous . the peoples protest movement should protest the UNHCR in Dublin 4 for this .
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I hope everyone will read and share this story mick , its important to get the truth out there about how most asylum seekers are coming from safe countries and making bogus claims costing the taxpayer a fortune in legal expenses and accommodation costs
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Nice piece Mick! Thank You

Sadly McDowell has been very quiet on the subject ever since or perhaps he was shut up by the neglect or unwillingness of our Press to take the matter further.

If I may add to this excellent article by Mick, I suggest that everybody should check out Lauren Southern's work on the subject, if you have not already.

Ms. Southern produced a documentary titled Borderless and need I say, it was almost immediately taken down by YouTube and others. Unlike the way her Documentary was portrayed in Main Stream Media (MSM)and indeed the way she herself was portrayed by some MSM outlets, especially in the States, France and (surprise, surprise) in Germany where she was most often referred to as either Right Wing or Fascist in one form or another and her work mocked, though at least for appearance sake taken seriously by some Euro politicians.

Ms. Southern's documentary very well portrays the plight of the genuine Refugee with absolute sympathy and genuine feeling & equally sheds scorn on the money making and money grabbing NGO's who openly teach undeserving (so called) refugees how to cheat the system to gain entry to their desired country.

Of course, the above is my opinion of the documentary, an opinion the some might justly feel is coloured by my opinion of what is happening in current day Ireland, and that is fair enough!.
I suggest that with an open mind you should view her work, Borderless and take from it what you will.

If my memory serves me well, I am sure there is also towards the end of the documentary some very uncomfortable footage, commentary and discussion with a county Wicklow Councillor who is asked some direct questions regarding funding of, and for refugees in the town, to which the reply is to ask for the cameras to be removed!.

Good Viewing!
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probably the only thing McDowell ever made sense about . I agree with him for the first time ever . the whole thing is a sham . a money pot for the super rich and ngos bleeding the tax payer dry
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thanks mick , nothings changed , over the past 20 years , Nigerians are the top nationality claiming asylum here . Nigeria is a safe country , the uk lists nigeria as a safe country of origin . There are no direct flights here yet they are all arriving at Dublin Airport and nobody is doing anything to stop it
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A LARGER COUNTRY/CONTINENT under laws written after WW1/2 ( Haig Convention ?) cannot send refugees to a SMALLER ISLAND. IT IS WRITTEN AND AGREED UNDER A UN CHARTER. ITS ILLEGAL FOR A LARGER 
POPULATION TO GO TO SMALLER. So,the legal system ignores this,as does Dopy Dail,Useless EU,and breaking their OWN LAWS, the DEVILS UN.
And nothing is/will be done about it? Besides knowing that the majority are false claims,CHECK IT YOURSELF,the useless eu ILLEGALLY allows these so called refusegees to cross European Border Countries,( Dublin treaty / EU
LAW ). When we finally get an honest govt. their should be a lot of 
COMPENSATION CLAIMS and COURT CASES to amuse us uneducated masses.Mind you, if DOPY DAIL did not flood the Globe with CONFETTI...
FAKE IRISH ...PIS PORTS.....???....one can only wonder! Pandoras OPEN !!
 
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Take a good look at the National Party Ireland.Do not be swayed by far right comments.This is the only party that should be seriously considered to save Ireland politically,they address Irish People's concerns.All others are Traitors,anti Irish,non patriots,and do not give a flying f..k about you,your coulture,or your heritage. They have achieved nothing between them over the last 100yrs except humiliate and disgrace Ireland and its People.When people have to take to the streets,the govt. has already failed.Thus Anarchy and then they lock you up.Get rid of Traitors, boycott and watch the enemy
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the only way to sort out all these fraudulent asylum claims is to set up an interview room at the airport , everyone else is doing it so why cant we . if their story is cock and bull refuse them entry into the country . problem solved.
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