Michael Martin says sovereignty is 'backward idea'

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Michael Martin of Fianna Fail shows off in front of Michel Barnier . 

Mr Barnier is the EU Commission's chief Brexit negotiator . On a recent visit to the Dail , Mr Barnier was the centre of attention as our politicians lined up to lick his boots . 

Michael Martin's speech was almost predictable , dismissing the Brexit result as a "backward looking idea of sovereignty" he says :
 
"we will remain absolutely commited to the ideals of the european union , the most successful international organisation in world history" and added that Brexit was the result of "scapegoating immigrants" 

If brexit (britains independence from the EU) was the result of 'scapegoating immigrants' , does it follow therefore that Mr Martin also believes Ireland's Independence from Britain was the result of scapegoating Protestant immigrantssad 

The 1916 Proclamation stated that - "We declare the right of the people of Ireland to the ownership of Ireland and to the unfettered control of Irish destinies . To be Sovereign and Indefeasible " 

If British Independence from the EU is 'a backward looking idea of sovereignty' , does this mean that Mr Martin also believes that Irish Independence from Britain and the 1916 proclamation were 'backward ideas' .

or maybe it was simply the location of the foreign rule that bothered Mr Martin , Maybe he wanted to swap Westminster for Brussels and this has now satisfied his desire for Irish Sovereignty , like it has with Sinn Fein .
  
Also , is it not a bit hypocritical to lecture people on ideas of sovereignty when Mr Martin's party ignored two democratic referendum results , Nice and Lisbon ?

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Sovereignty is the quality of having supreme independent authority over a geographic area or region

by its own definition , it cannot be shared , otherwise its not supreme or independent any longer and thus cannot be considered sovereignty but something much different , I think Michael martin and others are trying to re-define and re-invent the term to mean something completely different
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gee whiz lois , Mr martin says the british economy is struggling ?

hello

Uk factories have seen their strongest growth in 4 years

The IHS Markit/CIPS manufacturing purchasing index has seen the industry with a reading of 58.2 , the highest since august 2013

British factories are seeing their biggest number of new orders since 1988. Factory output has also grown at its fastest rate since 1995.

[url]https://news.sky.com/story/manufacturing-growth-jumps-to-four-year-high-11151129[/url]

it always amazes me how our politicians are allowed to talk untruths and nobody questions them or asks them to support their claims

its all hot air
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I think most people would favour a return to an Economics Community like the old EEC .

Political Union has been a disaster for everyone
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Barnier is probably thinking .. there's one born every day , these people are so easy
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can't understand why people vote for these people , it just makes a bad situation worse

more EU = more misery and self destruction of our lovely country
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He says : "while the left and right join together to attack it [the union] they have no credible response to the fact that every member state has secured a considerable rise in living standards"

ok michael , if this is true , why do we have the biggest homeless crisis since the famine according to fr peter McVerry .

I put it to you Mr Martin , that the living standards have risen mostly for the wealthy classes and not for the average joe
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the Irish people were denied democracy twice , Nice and Lisbon , Michael Martin can brag all he wants about his beloved EU , but its built on lies and I hope and pray that his members will wake up and see that they are forcing irish people against their will to embrace the EU , its very wrong and the country will never have any luck going forward being built on a lie

please Fianna fail Tds , I know there are still some good people in this party that have doubts about the whole thing , follow your heart and leave the party for the good of our childrens future
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I think Michael Martin should apologise for those remarks

He said brexit was a result of 30 years of scapegoating immigrants .

that a shameful thing to say ,

the reality is that every society only has so many houses , so many jobs , so many hospital beds , so many school places , you have to have some sort of immigration controls to maintain some sort of order .

British people are very welcoming but uderstood this fact that you need to have immigration controls in order for society to function properly . they were also worried about Terrorism and rightly so , ISIS said they would use the migrant crisis to flood our continent with terrorists , a senior libyan security advisor also told us that ISIS were activiely doing this , yet EU politicians like Michael Martin buried their heads in the sand and continue to do so . The EU is allowing free movement of terrorism accross the contintent .

British people realised that the EU was ignoring all these matters for its own agenda and voted not just for this but to take back control of its law making and society .

Michael Martin should say sorry to Britain for these remarks
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I bet he'd love to re-run the referendum .

the future of Ireland is based on false foundations

They ignored the nice referendum result , they ignored the lisbon referendum result , all under his party

how can they expect to have any luck going forward under these circumstances

I hope irish voters even people within ff , fg , sf etc who still believe will search their hearts and realise that whats happening in Ireland is wrong and that these parties no longer stand for the same principles as they once may have

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