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Warrenstown Islamic Centre given green light

Warrenstown Islamic Centre given green light
An Bord Pleanála has granted planning permission to the Shuhada foundation of Ireland for construction of a 4 Storey Islamic centre at Warrenstown House , Blanchardstown Road North Dublin 15 . 

The development was initially granted permission by Fingal County Council last october but this decision was appealed to the Board by a former resident Mr Patrick Regan. Mr Regan expressed a number of concerns about lack of public consultation , traffic congestion , car parking , height of minaret , Noise Pollution as a result of the Call to Prayer which occurs 5 times a day , the first one being at 5:30 am . A further 10 written submissions from concerned residents were made to the Board , these concerns included lack of integration with local community and creation of exclusive community , too many schools and halal shops in the area , traffic congestion , road safety , excessive scale and overdevelopment , visual impact on area , overshadowing , noise of minaret .   

The centre which has been designed for the seperation of both genders consists of  a 4 storey (3,805 sqm) Mosque with 97 metre high steel minaret , 2 apartments , 3 storey (2,728 sqm) community building incorporating a halal shop, barber shop, sports hall , changing rooms, restaurant , courtyard garden and offices . A Primary School (1,535sqm)  to the west of the site . 


In its decision , the Board overturned a number of conditions imposed on the applicant by Fingal County Council . A Condition by Fingal Council requiring the Halal shop and Barber shop to be omitted was overturned  , another condition preventing noise from the call to prayer being audible from outside the site boundaries was also overturned while a condition requiring the applicant to make a financial contribution of €12,936 to better public infrastructure was also overturned by the Board .

Recommending that a Decision be made to grant permission for the development , Senior Planning Inspector Karla Mc Bride for An Bord Pleanala added :

The design and layout of the proposed development represents a high quality response to the characteristics of the appeal site and the surrounding area, and to the religious and cultural needs of the Shuhada community.

In particular, the design of the Mosque and Minaret is both contemporary and demonstrative of Islamic architecture.

The amended height and location will ensure that the Mosque occupies a prominent position within the site .

I am satisfied that the proposed development would make a positive contribution to the architectural and cultural heritage of this part of Fingal in particular and west Dublin in general

The proposed development would not seriously injure the amenities of the area or of property in the vicinity or give rise to a traffic hazard. The proposed development would, therefore, be in accordance with the proper planning and sustainable development of the area  



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Those are personal remarks made by the Board Inspector in this case which suggests a certain level of bias on her part .. she says that she believes the Warrenstown development .. quote "would make a positive contribution to the 'cultural heritage' of this part of Fingal in particular and west Dublin in general" . It is NOT her Job to consider matters relating to 'cultural heritage' , architectural heritage yes (although I fail to see how) but not matters relating to culture . She is a glorified Civil Servant being paid to consider planning matters only . But hey this is typical behaviour now of An Bord Pleanala , it has become almost the political wing of government .
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is this the cultural enrichment the board inspector is talking about

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its one of the warmest days of the year and I've just seen a muslim woman in the full works , goggles and all , head to toe , Im assuming it was a woman , could be anyone.

We are importing this Medieval culture into Ireland . Anybody who thinks like this is only one step away from thinking other things that are not good for Ireland.
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There is a number of things here

firstly , the shops are profit making enterprises , the private school is also profit making and so too is the restaurant , presumably , the sports facilities will be profit making too .

None of this stuff is for free .

Therefore , it should not be considered a charitable development , like everyone else they should have to pay a financial contribution to improve local services

Secondly , there is enough mosques already , the Clonskeagh mosque can accomodate thousands of worshippers , the Dublin Mosque is also quite big .

Thirdly , where is the finance for this coming from , who are the people financing it ????
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Our native population is quite small , our fertility rates are very low with many couples not having kids now until their mid 30s or not at all and max 1 or 2 children. it will happen relatively quickly given the current rate of immigration into Ireland that we are replaced in a short enough time period .

Foreign corporations have been given full control over our immigration , outsourcing much of the work to people from abroad .

Its such a shame the way Ireland has gone .
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Once these structures are built they can never be reversed. Think long and hard Ireland do you want the long list of invaders to include Islam?. At this time Ireland had no interest in Islam but Islam has interest in Ireland.
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Just curious , Is it the Job of a planning inspector to consider cultural matters ?

I thought their job was to consider planning matters only .

karla McBride in recommending permission be granted says "I am satisfied that the proposed development would make a positive contribution to the cultural heritage of this part of Fingal in particular and west Dublin in general"
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you'd think we would learn from whats happening in other countries . There are new high rise apartments being built around Dublin City and the Docklands area . These will be the ghettos of the future . no doubt .
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